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2 new pre-war Dinky acquisitions

Just received 2 new pre-war Dinky's in the mail yesterday, and wanted to post some pictures of each of them. I had not really focused much on pre-war models until a few years ago, and now am enjoying acquiring a few of them.
The first one is the Dinky Caravan #30g. I had purchased one of these many years ago, but it was quite scratched up and also had quite a few fatigue cracks running through it. This newer one is in very good condition, with some small chips mostly on the top area, but no fatigue whatsoever and the tires are also nearly perfect. I think it is a wonderfully "quaint" model that Dinky made and it pairs very well with the pre-war designed cars, such as this Humber Vogue Saloon from the 36 series (this one is post war, purchased new from H. Hudson Dobson in 1958)

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The other new model for me is the pre-war Dinky Thunderbolt Racing Car #23m. This one is in very good condition as far as the paint and tires are concerned, but it does have a very small area of fatigue around the nose...which appears stabilized and not getting any worse. The Union Jack decal on the tail fin is very clear and it came with an original box that is also in very good condition. The box is dated 2-38, so this model is close to being 75 years old.
I am also including a picture of it alongside a post war Streamlined Racing Car to show the differences between the pre-war and post-war versions. The pre-war detailing is much more like the real car.

Terry

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Hi Terry

I love the caravan that's a beauty, you rarely find them in such good condition. The Thunderbolt is also very very nice.

I have very few pre-war items but I will have to look out for a caravan.

Dave

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Caravan is in lovely condition, don't see them that good very often, mine is quite fatigued. I got mine cheaper as the seller listed it as having the tow hook replaced with a bit of wire, it was totally original of course!
The Thunderbolt is one of my favourites as the real thing was built in the Black Country in Tipton only a few miles from where I live.
Great to see it in a box too.
You just can't beat Pre War can you?
Chris Warr.

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Chris and Dave--
Thanks for the kind comments. I was very happy to get both of these. As you know, it is not easy to find pre-war Dinky's that are not either pretty scratched up or fatigued, or both.
Being from the States, and living on the west coast (Calif.), I didn't run into pre-war issues until I started buying online many years ago, and even then, I just was not that interested. But then I got a couple and started appreciating them more and more. They have a certain charm all their own and are certainly from a very bygone era.
The Caravan, in particular, to me associates so well with pre-war, and is a wonderful add to the collection.

Terry

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Chris--
Since you appear to be a pre-war Dinky fan, thought I might show you a very nice set I managed to acquire last year. I had originally posted it here, but not sure if you had seen it then....I apologize to those who may have seen it and this is a repeat. I had also moved the images where I store them, so those original post images would be gone.
This is the Dinky Toys Mechanical Horse and Five Assorted trailers #33, from about 1937. They all are original and in very near to new condition, with no fatigue at all. It is and likely will be the pinnacle of my Dinky collection.........

Terry

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Thanks for sharing these beautiful items! That caravan is lovely, and that colour scheme is great too, complete with the incongruous blue wheels.

The Mechanical Horse set looks like you've just bought it from a toy shop in the 1930s. It's so sad that many of these toys have crumbled away due to fatigue.

I only have two pre-war Dinkies, and they're both damaged, but I can definitely see the attraction. As a complete range, the pre-war items had something which was never re-captured in later years.

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That 33 set is the best I've ever seen, I've NEVER seen Pre War 33 Series with no fatigue at all, they are incredible!
I'm trying to put this set together myself, I've got the Meccano Box van with cab, albeit in reversed colours, the same blue sided trailer and plain red / green petrol trailers. The flat trailer and Dustcart are proving difficult at sane prices! All mine are quite fatiged.
I can't believe that set has survived so well, no bits of stray lead in the mix the day those were made!
Chris Warr.

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Chris--
Thanks again for the nice comments. You are right, getting a pre-war set like that in pristine condition is almost impossible. It is truly sad to see so many so damaged by fatigue; it is a cruel fate that many have have suffered! And even these tires are almost perfect...not even cracked. It must have sat in it's box, packed away in a good environment.
Since we are still talking about pre-war item, I am showing below another few that I have acquired in the past few years, and these are the #42 Police Hut, Motor Cycle Patrol, and Policemen; the #43 R.A.C. Hut, Motor Cycle Patrol and Guides; the #44 A.A. Box, Motor Cycle, and Guides. These are all lovely sets, using 3 different elements that Dinky made then.....the lovely painted "box art" scenes as a backdrop, tin plate, and diecast. These again have that wonderful pre-war look to them, and the figures are just amazing, with so much hand painted detail that was discontinued after the war. Even the motorcycles have detailing that was later lost: the engines are painted silver as is the exhaust system, and the A.A. motor cycle even has the gas tank painted a different color. Enjoy!!

Terry

The difference between pre-war and post-war detailing

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Wonderful sets, I've not seen the Police set in reality, and only have the post war AA MC combo.
These show exactly why I love Pre War Dinky so much, they were producing models of top quality, (at a top price of course!)with superb details, and it's obvious that the designers went to great lengths to make them as accurate and detailed as possible. After the war this was simply no longer possible.
I love the Pre War boxes most of all, just look at the work that went into them, these were not throw away items but high quality sets meant to be stored back in the box after use.
And 200 varieties too! I presume that counts all the re-colours on the vans separately, but still, not too much of a job to get a full set back then!

Chris Warr.

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I have very very few pre-war items but I got the two trailers a while ago.

Today I acquired a Mechanical Horse to go with the LMS version, now I need an LNER one to match the other trailer.

These are based on Karrier Cob vehiles which were part of the Rootes Group and eventually became known as Commers.

The pre-war sign written vehicles do have a charm which the post war ones do not possess.

Dave

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Dave--
Those are very nice! I really like those older liveries that were in use then, and the railroad versions have interesting graphics. Nice to see those and thanks for posting. They appear to be in pretty good condition also.
Terry

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Terry

Thanks for that, there is some paint loss but no corrosion/fatigue at all, I am very pleased with them.

If I could find a really nice LNER tractor unit that would make a lovely set.

I will have to keep looking

Dave

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Nice one Dave,
Love those red hubs. I still need to find an LMS set, and a GWR trailer, I think getting any of these that come along as separates is the way to go, wait for a set together and it takes years unless you win the lottery.
Chris Warr.

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You are absolutely right Chris. In the collecting world patience is the key but sometimes it does takes a long time. When this is the case finding the right item is a real nice feeling.
Dave