Yes Sir.

Dave and Jacques, perhaps this division is not the most appropriate solution, but it need not be a drama either. Although there is a lot of similarity and overlap, the threads might stay like this, if used in a disciplined way. Questions and all kind of information about the real-world prototype (also eventually including photos and other pictures in general) fit best in the 'Where it came from' thread, whereas this 'Matching pictures' thread should only focus on photo similarities, as point of view is concerned, of a Dinky model photo and the real one (without further explicit discussions about the relation between them).
So congruent photos should be the leading issue here, that is, in my opinion.
Kind regards, Jan

I fully agree with Jan. I always assumed this Thread was devoted to the manner in which I have utilised it – locate a suitable, appropriate photograph of the prototype and then photograph the Dinky model as close as possible to the angle/position of the prototype photograph. However, if “someone” disagrees with the choice of prototype photograph, the disagreement should NOT be within the public domain, but through email contact. As my recent “discussion” has been with the moderator, he has my email address and we should have had our discussion in private thus circumventing any embarrassment with either party. For others who do not have the email address, perhaps there should be a contact point for members to write their message to be forwarded through the moderator. With my posts, I have devoted considerable time in both selecting the appropriate prototype image and then further time and effort in photographing the Dinky model and finally selecting the best image. I think some folk do not understand or appreciate the effort involved which is quite disappointing.

The Thread “Where it Came From” is more ideal as Jan has stated, with discussions about the model, why it was selected, and so forth exactly as Jan has written. Although basically both Threads can cover the same model, how each Thread is used differentiates them.

The moderator should also be exercising more help when a member posts a picture of a prototype and then opens a new post for the Dinky model. This is a waste of space and drags out the discussion especially if another member immediately posts a topic before the second image can be downloaded, thus separating the two posts, prototype and Dinky. Members should be shown how to post an image, especially their size (small images do not do justice to the subject), and then when that image has been downloaded, edit that post and add the second image, and so on. I notice from the above posts, nothing appears to have happened to assist the member in question. There has also been an instance of countless, unnecessary Threads being opened and these should be tidied up.

I am very sorry to have caused such a problem. I am the only Italian member of DTCA and I opened the Matching Pictures thread with the aim of collecting information about the real life prototypes of Dinky Toys, which is sometime hard to have in my country. I beg pardon for bothering, but indeed I found many more success with this thread than with Were They Came From, which of course I tried too. Images that have been posted in Matching Pictures offered to me various occasion to exactly identify the year of production and the version of the prototype, that is all I need to fillfull my documentation. Thanks a lot for it, and greetings from Rome!

Good evening,

You have a wonderful city - my family and I visited it in August 2005.
No you have not caused any problems. I had hoped the moderator would have contacted you by now to give you some help in posting images to the DTCA. At times we all need a bit of assistance, and he will be able to help you improve your posts which I am sure are greatly appreciated by the members of the DTCA. I will keep an eye on this thread and despite what I have recently written, if nothing happens, I will contact him direct.
We need you to continue providing your input into this website!!

Kind regards
Bruce
(from Australia!)

That was very kind of you, Bruce.
So, I go on with my questions: possible to know
something about the real Berliet Stradair ?
Beside it, I'm still waiting for news related to the
Leyland Martian...

Sorry, I made a mess, as usual: that was also a big mistery: the LMV street cleaner.
Here is the Stradair.

Cattelag,

I have the answer to some of your questions :

571 - Chausson coach. The type is AP 521, it was build as a coach and Paris bus. I remember them on the line 83. Chausson was mainly a supplier of petrol tanks and radiators for other manufacturers. After absorbing Chenard et Walker, they were taken over by Peugeot and assembled the Peugeot vans series D3, D4, J7, J9 etc... I think that they were also the manufacturer of the Opel GT (French Dinky 1421).

255 - Refer to the excellent 255 posts, I would not dare to add anything.

29c - Meccano never made an ERF model. I think that the two Foden brothers did not get on very well together and as Meccano worked with one, they could not work with the other.

This picture shows the main difference between the AEC and the Leyland buses.

808 - Wrong match, wrong cab.

569 - Berliet Stradair with side tipper.

Photo by courtesy of the Berliet Foundation

Build from 1965 until 1970, the five tonner Stradair (for Strada and air) was the first truck with air suspension which is now standard on most trucks and semi-trailers.

There is a video about the Stradair on http://www.fondationberliet.org/la-collection/collection-camions-vehicul...

The cab was designed by Philippe Charbonneaux who amongst many other cars designed the Renault 16 (Dinky Toys ref. 166, 537,538).

Jacques.

" have the answer to some of your questions"
Thank you Jacques!
Nothing about LMV?
I tried my best for the BOAC, but the only thing I dug out
was this:

and this:

Hi all,
The coach Dinky modelled is in the background, it's a Commer I think?
Chris Warr.

It's a Commer with Harrington Contender coach body, from 1956.

A Leyland Martian FV1103A Medium Artillery Tractor from 1957.

LMV stands for Le Matériel de Voirie.

This vehicle type B 62 was build in Courbevoie a suburb of Paris. It's rear mounted Perkins 8 cylinders engine gives 95 hp. The tank contains 5500 liters of water, the top speed is only 40 km/h. Note that it is right hand drive.

The Dinky Toys issued in May 1960 had a short life span of only three years, the yellow end flaps box never showed a drawing of the model but the instructions to operate the brush. Three of these models were packed in grey outers.

The Auto-balayeuse LMV is the 200 th. Dinky Toys made at Bobigny.

"LMV stands for Le Matériel de Voirie."

Thank you!!! Any idea about the period of production?

Let's come to this Muir Hill: who made it? When? Where?

Let's come to this Muir Hill: who made it? When? Where?

It's all there

http://www.talkmodeltoys.com/discus/messages/27668/2334.html?1397084062

"It's all there"

Maybe not "all" but quite enough. Thank you !

What about this ?

Photo by courtesy of the U.S. Army.

Catellag,

What about getting yourself a Dinky Toys Encyclopaedia for Christmas ? It contains the answer to most of your questions and much more.

We seem to be going down the same road as in www.planetdiecast.com with the same subjects coming up with the same pictures! I guess there may be many who are unaware of that website. Some current members of the DTCA have changed their picture profile though!! :laugh:

Off topic: yes Bruce, you will find Terry and me on Planet Diecast every now and then, but lesser and lesser. There isn't (and in fact never was) much valuable Dinky discussion there. It's no use crying over spillt milk, but Talk Model Toys is/was the best, a very fine and logical structure, everything very easy to find, but being maintained and functioning worse and worse. Kind regards, Jan

Jan,

TMT is still online but un-accessible by the usual way. Yesterday I have posted a link to the Muir-Hill dumper which leads to the TMT page (see a couple of posts above). I found this link with Google. The problem is that from this page one can not go to any other page.

The problem with Planet diecast is that it is not compatible with Macs, there is a bug somewhere and the guys responsible for this site do not know how to fix it and anyway, as you write there is not much discussion there.

WHERE IS OUR T M T ?

"a Dinky Toys Encyclopaedia for Christmas"

That's kind of you, I'll be waiting for your present.

1948 PLYMOUTH SPECIAL DELUXE STATION WAGON

AND THE 1950 DINKY 27F ESTATE CAR (LATER RENUMBERED 344)

Nice matches with the real Plymouth wagon. It is clear that for some reason, Dinky chose to square off the rear roof and window compared to the real car. Maybe it was due to die considerations?? But still a very nice model!
Regards, Terry

I believe I have shown this photo once before. I used it as a demonstration that possibly a more or less squarish model was a bit easier to cast, allowing for a seam of the vertical halves in the middle.

The models on top are square and show that seam. The models below have more round shapes, which took more die-elements to cast in my opinion. So possibly, if there was an opportunity to make a more square model, the casting would be easier - and cheaper no doubt. Just a theory ....
Kind regards, Jan

A new thread has been opened for Dinky Toys manufacturing techniques, please post your replys to Terry and Jan in this new thread.

Thanks.

Jacques.

The Jaguar SS100 Sports Tourer, from around 1938

The Dinky 38f Sports Car

An Alvis touring car

The Dinky 38d Alvis Sports Tourer