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-582 and 982 Bedford Pullmore Car Transporter (1953-63)

Before continuing on and on in the New Arrivals thread, I open this one in order to keep the information on the car transporter in the right place. I have no spectacular new information on short notice but I wanted to show two publicity pictures on which the six rivets (well, half of it) are shown:

The pre-announcement in the 1953 UK catalogue - the introduction in MM of June 1953 just did not show them anymore.

A 4 page leaflet of 1954, the Flemish and French Belgian versions shown here.

My examples, the third showing the new, higher box 'With Detachable Loading Ramp' (text not seen here), accommodating the Loading Ramp box as well.

In the March 1954 Meccano Magazine the Toyman - trying to compensate for the still wanting loading ramp - made his own.

And finally a view inside the box with packing pieces present.

There is also the early all-medium blue version - some early ones in the early 1950s dark blue picture-less lid-box - and the latest one with windows. The Meccano construction system also had a Pullmore Car Transporter as an example to build, but I cannot find the picture at this moment - for others to find ...

Kind regards, Jan

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M.M. April 1956.

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The following posts have been transfered from the "New arrivals" thread.

I also just got a new arrival this week, and was delighted to open up the box and see it for the first time. This is an early version of the #582 Pullmore Car Transporter, not the 6 rivet, but still the single, light blue color, along with the darkened loading ramps. For Christmas in 1955, I had received my first one from my dear grandmother, and I always loved the Transporter....a wonderful toy for a young boy. When the chance arrived to buy an almost like new one, and in the earlier version, I jumped at it.

The date code on the inside of the box shows this was made in September, 1953. From prior reading, I think the Transporter first appeared in early 1953, as the limited run 6 rivet version. From pictures I have seen, the 6 rivet also appeared to have decal lettering on the side of the trailer, as you can clearly see the yellowed background around the words. At first I wasn't sure how much I would like the single, somewhat pale color of this one, but it has grown on me, plus the look of the darkened ramps, which are probably a little more realistic as well.

The box it came with is almost like new, and has the two inserts included, and the model itself has only a few minor marks, so I am very happy with it. On one side of the box, above the wording "A Meccano Product", is a number....."50582". I seem to remember reading something about that, but cannot now remember it if meant anything.....please let me know if it does!
Below are several photos, along with some showing it loaded with my Triumph 1800 saloons...making a trip from the manufacturer to a local car dealer.....enjoy!

From the 1953 catalog, showing the early color scheme.

From the 1954 catalog, showing the later two tone color scheme.

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Splendid capture Terry with a complete box ! It would be interesting if you could put a photo in the Pullmore thread. That will add a good information on this beautiful truck.

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Richard.

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Lovely item Terry they look so nice with a set of the same cars onboard.

Here is mine with a set of Standard Vanguards.

Dave.

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Here under my Pullmore Car Transporter team that I already have posted in that thread :

http://www.dtcawebsite.org/dinky-forum/2-dtca-forum/1376-results-of-hunt...

The only informations I have are :

- ref.582 made in 1953 : Blue tractor + light blue trailer and light blue tractor and light blue/fawn trailer.
2 types of blue wheels as we can see on the Jan pictures.
"582" on the trailer's base plate

-ref.982a made in 1954 : The same as above but with "982" on the trailer's base plate and "Dinky supertoys" on the tractor. Box ref. "Dinky Toys 982"

-ref.982b made in 1958 : Same as above but Box "Dinky Supertoys" with straight letters. Only one colour type : Blue tractor + light blue trailer + blue wheels

-ref.982c made in 1960 : same as above but box with oblique letters.

Unfortunately, I don't have any information on the dark blue tractor and trailer version.

Kind regards.

Richard

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A very nice example + box indeed, Terry! Here is mine, and it's striking to see that all colour shades of the loading area's seem to be different. Terry's very dark, Dave's more greyish and mine a kind of medium buff.

As you see my box is numbered 982 already, although the number cast underneath is 582. The box is in a rather poor condition.

My subsequent two-tone version has the same 982 box (with the model in all pale blue on it, with differently coloured loading strips), and it still has the number 582 cast in down under.

Kind regards, Jan

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janwerner wrote:

A very nice example + box indeed, Terry! Here is mine, and it's striking to see that all colour shades of the loading area's seem to be different. Terry's very dark, Dave's more greyish and mine a kind of medium buff.

As you see my box is numbered 982 already, although the number cast underneath is 582. The box is in a rather poor condition.

My subsequent two-tone version has the same 982 box (with the model in all pale blue on it, with differently coloured loading strips), and it still has the number 582 cast in down under.

Kind regards, Jan

Jan

The colour of the decks has been usually referred to as "mushroom", with there being two shades of "mushroom".

Here is my 582 with the six rivets :

Interesting that the drawing on the box does not show any rivets, probably due to those in Meccano not liking their appearance although things changed in 1957 with the drawing in that year's catalogue showing the rivets for the first time, although the drawing on the box as a Dinky Supertoys still did not show the rivets.

I also agree that all these posts should belong in a 582/982 Pullmore Car Transporter thread.

Kind regards.

Bruce.

AND THE 1957 AUSTRALIAN CATALOGUE

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I have not found any sort of "time table" or other reference that clearly states when each of these version was made and/or changed, and even the Dinky Toys Encyclopedia does not give very specific dates. I would be curious when the very first model was introduced (Meccano Magazine I think mentioned May 1953), when the change was made from 6 rivets to 4, and when the change was made from single color/dark ramps to two-tone.

Do any of you that have boxes, have a date code to refer to? As I mentioned, mine says September 1953. The 1954 catalog shows the new color scheme, but not sure when it actually took effect.

I also searched, and found only a few past entries for this model on the forum, so not sure if we should start a new page with that specific reference, or just re-direct these posts.

Best regards,

Terry.

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Here are 2 english catalogues :

On the top : 1960
under : 1956

On the 1956 price-list, the 982 cost was 17/6

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Sorry for my poor scan !

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On a 1961 belgian catalogue :

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Here are two of my Pullmores, there is another two-tone blue one inside the box at the rear, it only differs in that it has smooth tyres and the one on the box has treaded ones.

The early 258 box sadly does not have a date code, the later 982 box is dated 1958.

Dave

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Dave

Nice seeing a Trade Pack with the loading ramps - first I have seen!

I would like to know the exact details of the inspection stamp on the inside of the box dated 1958 if I may!

Herewith are some more pictures of my early 582 that was inspected in April 1953, one month before its release.

Kind regards
Bruce
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janwerner wrote:
"Before continuing on and on in the New Arrivals thread, I open this one in order to keep the information on the car transporter in the right place. I have no spectacular new information on short notice but I wanted to show two publicity pictures on which the six rivets (well, half of it) are shown:

The pre-announcement in the 1953 UK catalogue - the introduction in MM of June 1953 just did not show them anymore.

A 4 page leaflet of 1954, the Flemish and French Belgian versions shown here.

There is also the early all-medium blue version - some early ones in the early 1950s dark blue picture-less lid-box - and the latest one with windows. The Meccano construction system also had a Pullmore Car Transporter as an example to build, but I cannot find the picture at this moment - for others to find ...

Kind regards, Jan"

Jan

And of course, there is the English version of the same leaflet as shown above!
Kind regards

Bruce

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I noticed this older thread or post on the Pullmore Transporters, and saw the the photo with the Loading Ramps in individual boxes, along side the trade box they were shipped in. I have an older Loading Ramp, but it is in a sleeve, instead of a box, and am guessing that is because it came with the Transporter, instead of being purchased separately? The graphics are similar, but done in black instead of white. I have also noticed that most of these ramps do not closely match the color of the transporter.
Regards,
Terry

 

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Greetings Terry

You are absolutely correct in that the loading ramp that came with the later issues of the Pullmore were packaged in a sleeve and not in an end-flap box and the artwork is different. I had mine until the thing came apart and instead of gluing it back together, I remember throwing it out. Of course I was a stupid 14 year old at the time and no doubt the onset of discovering girls played a major role with that decision! You are also spot on (no not Spot-On!) with the colour, as mine has what looks like a tinge of green in it, although that is how I see it. Certainly the colour, and I have had quite a few 982 with loading ramps, does not match the light blue of the trailer. It is interesting how the decks were in a grey or mushroom colour and then with the advent of the ramp the decks remained in light blue. Possibly Meccano experimented with the grey or mushroom for the ramp and then decided to reduce the cost by eliminating the different deck colour thus leaving the ramp in blue, even if it did not match. Perhaps the different metals may have had some reaction over the years causing a change in colour. (I feel someone will denounce this hypothesis resoundingly!! :laugh: :laugh: ) Although the more I think of it, at the time, I never noticed any difference with the light blue of the ramp and the light blue of the trailer.

Kind regards

Bruce (150)
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A high capacity car carrier.